This debate is about demonstrated capability, not authorial promises. My opponent keeps saying Saitama has “no ceiling,” but that is not a feat, it is an empty page. The other side admits canon never shows Saitama straining, then treats that absence as proof. That is backwards. Goku has concrete universal-scale output, combat speed, and Instant Transmission. To win, the other side must show Saitama can track and hurt that, not assume he can because the joke says so. A character who has never been tested is not unbeatable. He is just untested. Goku wins.