Should all meat consumption be banned? no it should not meat is a vital part of the human diet. It provides protein nutrients that the body needs. There’s no reason it should be banned as it’s a completely natural thing for humans to hunt and kill and eat animals. The only time meat would be able to be banned would be if we banned halal meat because halal meat kills the animals in an unethical way. we already have a clear drawn line of what to and not to eat you would eat a chicken but not a dog so we clearly have a system in place and banning all meat would just lead people to go to dangerous shady places to buy it that could risk contaminated product and harm or disease to them fully banning meat is just a blanket ban not to mention meat is good as it provides happiness and increases moral to people who eat it imagine it’s a nice winter day your cold tired just got home and you find yourself served with a nice juicy hot steak their is no feeling quite like it. not to mention people are free to choose not to eat meat it is simply a choice

see it is completely sustainable water is in the water cycle and is also capable of being purified and reused and while cow methane is a issue not only is it problematic no matter how they die theirs also far bigger issues like fossil fuels which dwarf this issue i agree with your opinion on water dead zones and such but that just goes to show we should be making sure farming animals is more controlled rather than banning it outright and to say it’s a few minutes of taste pleasure is wrong it’s about the nutrients and benefits of eating it for your body theirs also no correlation to the amazon burning. not to mention animals and farming is one of the biggest industry’s for the economy if we banned meat lots of farms would shut and lots of stores would lose money overall it would defund the country and make everyone worse off. everyone would get less nutrients and have less morale which would lead to less productivity. do you really want to see a country of poor malnourished people with no motivation?

i understand but we’re not as disconnected as you may think more and more people are switching to grass fed meats and free range eggs for example which goes to show we can do this ethically. theirs also no argument to support suffering as many animals have good lives and are killed painlessly before being made into food. and you making this comparison to smallpox is a very rude straw man fallacy that misconstrues my argument. you also seem to be repeating yourself as i said before their is obvious concern for the environment but clearly we can put in policies to make sure it’s sustainable and controlled rather than introducing this blanket ban which as i said leads people to dodgy markets and risk disease. and no it’s not fearmongering it’s the same as social media bans it just pushes people to dangerous spaces many people don’t find any satisfaction in plant based diets and many would argue they good like soy for example which has estrogen mimicking compounds. and it is a personal choice if we can do it controlled and ethically why take away the free will for what we eat. and the point still stands that it’s such a huge industry that getting rid of it would have such huge effects on the economy that it would be detrimental to us all. and no matter what argument you present you can’t beat a cold harsh day where you go home to your friends and family all sit round the table and enjoy some warm soothing reenergising slices of meat

your completely changing what i’m saying i never labelled it as controlled i said it can be made controlled and just because a tiny fraction have switched over doesnt mean we can’t focus on making that the only version of meat and everyone to switch over to it. and you claim we don’t have free will but what free will do we have when we can’t even buy one of the choices. the amazon also doesn’t get burned at all it gets cut and replanted timber is one of the most sustainable industry’s on the planet. say what you want about things being debunked but the evidence shows itself when you compare vegans to meat eaters the meat eaters are consistently more healthy and more physically capable that speaks for itself and banning meat may not be about taking joy away but it certainly is a byproduct of it you can’t replace the feeling of eating a juicy tender steak with soy or tofu and you certainly can’t replace all the money the economy and farmers lose

i never implied a simple on off switch if anything you did with the blanket ban. deforestation is also as i said a sustainable practise as its regenerative. you are cherry picking parts of climate change that specifically help your case. it is also far easier to implement policy to regulate rather than ban entirely just because they haven’t self regulated doesn’t mean they won’t when law and policy is introduced and the meat industry is huge not because of tax dollars but because people love it and go out their way to buy it why do you think business’ like butchers are popular and prominent in almost every town not to mention that saying randomly switching to a plant based system would save money in public health theirs no evidence to back that and that’s appeal to naturalism. also the money to build a plant based system in times like winter where everywhere needs greenhouses is substantial . and not all places for meat are random forests tore down the vast majority are empty fields and spaces being used and talking about ancient soil doesn’t make sense what difference does it make if the soils ancient it’s still just soil also correlation can be causation and your point about me cherry picking is odd as it suggests meat eaters do better economically if only they can afford these things. my points are also not nostalgia their basic emotions from day to day life that most people share meat isn’t some distant memory it’s a part of my life everyday which brings people so much joy. you also keep mentioning things like collapse without any real evidence or points you seem to just be using buzzwords to fearmonger and who’s to say our future should just be chose for us do we not get a say