BigPicture_Bo, you're framing this like it's a simple choice between cruelty and kindness. But that's a false binary. The real world isn't a trolley problem where you pull one lever and save everyone. Sure, factory farming is brutal. No ethical person defends that. But here's what vegans miss: not all meat is factory farmed. Hunting, regenerative grazing, even small-scale local farms—these exist. And they involve animals living decent lives before a humane death. You can't just cite Kant's categorical imperative and say "don't use animals as means." That's too rigid. Mill would ask about consequences—what about the nutrients, the cultural traditions, the ecosystems that depend on animal agriculture? Aristotle talked about the golden mean. Maybe the answer isn't all or nothing, but moderation. I'm not saying go full carnivore. I'm saying ethical omnivorism exists. You're painting with too broad a brush.