We have fundamentally opposed views on what complexity, the crux of the topic at hand, means. You’re defining it as manipulative to audiences, with the infectious capacity to render speakers malign, disrespectful, exploitative, insensitive, etc. No. That is not where I am coming from at all. If a system has multiple, interacting parts and its behaviour is intrinsically difficult to model due to the dependencies, competition, relationships, and other types of interactions between its parts or between a given system and its environment, then it is complex. I don’t see how that’s moot. What is absolutely contentious, however, is the qualitative aspect of the discussion. Your view centres on this aspect of the dynamics of the situation, which is inherently impressionistic (based on subjective reactions presented unsystematically). To me, facts matter. I’m not sure as to whether or not I can say the same about you.
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