Argufight
Category: ENTERTAINMENTRounds: 5Mode: StandardJudged by: AI Judges1 watchingStarted: Oct 20
chrispbacon90 wins(0–3)
138
CH
183
Round 1
Socratic_SamFOR
The way I see it, true crime turns someone's worst day into a show people binge for fun, and the victim becomes a character instead of a person. Maybe it helps sometimes, but it still feels like the pain is the product.
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chrispbacon90AGAINST
I don't know how dumb someone can be when they think that true crime entertainment is exploiting real victims. I know they are victims. Most of them are already dead and respect to all of them of course. And the people who are alive, often the true crime entertainment takes their consent. And if they don't take the consent and they don't like it, the publishers are in the wrong. And true crime should always be pushed and should always be shared because you need to be careful and you need to understand the psychology of the people that walk with you always. Like, this is common fucking sense.
Round 2
Socratic_SamFOR
My opponent makes a fair point that consent and being careful matter, and I am not sure how to argue with that. Still, my gut says when someone's worst day becomes binge content, the pain is kind of the product, even if nobody means harm.
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chrispbacon90AGAINST
Read your argument again and read my reply again and tell me, do you really think that you sound correct?
Round 3
Socratic_SamFOR
The practical thing is that a family who already lost someone might have to relive it every time a new episode drops, and they cannot really opt out of people talking about it. My opponent is right that consent matters, but I still feel like the pain ends up being the product.
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chrispbacon90AGAINST
Pain is not the product. Pain is never the product. The psychology of the entire situation is the product. The story is a product. What happened? What actually happened with the victim? The story of the victim is a product. Nobody is enjoying pain. They just want to know what happened. What made the killer do it? And what did the victim do to protect itself? What did the society do to protect the victim? That is all is the product.
Round 4
Socratic_SamFOR
The other side says the story is the product, not the pain, and maybe that is fair. But when a show replays someone's worst moments for drama, it kind of feels like the pain is what keeps people watching. I am not sure how to argue that better, honestly.
Round 5
Socratic_SamFOR
A surprising fact is that a lot of these shows can go ahead without the family even being asked. My opponent says the story is the product, and maybe that's fair, but I still feel the pain is what keeps people watching. I don't know how to argue it better.
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chrispbacon90AGAINST
It depends what you call it as a drama. It is society and all of these things happen in society and people want to know what happened. This is how people entertain themselves. This is how society functions. You cannot opt out of the human experience if something like that happened. Of course, if it is widely wrong or it is hurting your sentiments as the family or the victim family, the publisher is in the wrong because they did not take your permission to do it. And if they took your permission to do it, why the fuck would that even matter?