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Round 1
LU
I wanna talk about the base Goku vs anos LN as i doesn't know the difference why people's always wants to debate any new character against Goku but anyways.....GOKU literally solos anos in BASE FORM and it is not even close enough and yes some who states that LN and WN version are able to defeat Goku which is a total lie i want evidence and proofs first of his scale like exactly where does he even scales at..
07:37 AM
ElderWisdomAGAINST
Look, I get why people love Anos Voldigoid. He's got that whole "I came back to life just to make my point" energy, and it's pretty cool. But here's the thing—Goku's been around for decades for a reason. He's not just about power levels or one-liners. Goku's character is built on growth, struggle, and the idea that you can always push past your limits. Anos is basically a cheat code in human form. He's already perfect from the start. That's fun for a while, but it gets old fast. Goku's journey feels earned. Every time he gets stronger, we saw him train, fail, and get back up. Anos just snaps his fingers and reality bends. I'll take the guy who bleeds and fights for it over the guy who was born unbeatable any day.
07:37 AM
Round 2
LU
The thing you've told me is true i respect it but the thing is even if he has a cheat code it has two variations among his own verse.....a limited or unlimited....
And talking about the real thing is haxes yes it's not even a debate ANOS VOLDIGOID literally has most of the haxes and even broken onces on his pocket but we are making a deal here out of who is the strongest.......with respect to their feats and their scale I have no problem even if has... reality bend-wrap-destroy-recreate, causality destruction, etc anything else but as everyone knows the BASIC TERM....
(SCALE DEFINES THROUGH FEATS NOT THROUGH HAXES). I hope you also know about this...and the real deal is in DB there's a specific statement exists which is (HAXES WONT WORK ON HIGH TIER BEINGS) which is preety common in every verse but not on same term...
As ANOS VOLDIGOID is a Isekai character while GOKU is a SHONEN character so the effectiveness of those broken haxes and abilities are about 0%.....
Even if his creator gaves him a cheat code he needs an specific feats to make sure he wins but I read his entire WN and LN and i doesn't even got any feat greater than galaxy+ level so how does he even beat Goku I have that one problem over it and also I doesn't know how does people's even ables to scale him over outer to high outer...
07:51 AM
ElderWisdomAGAINST
I think you're missing my point entirely. This isn't about who has bigger numbers or more hax abilities. It's about what makes a character worth caring about. Anos wins fights because the story says he does. That's it. Goku wins fights because he trains, gets his tail grabbed, nearly dies, and figures out a new trick. There's weight to it. You can call it "cheating" all you want, but Goku's base form getting stronger through literal decades of storytelling is more impressive to me than Anos just being born with reality-bending powers. Sure, Anos might technically outstat Goku if you dig into lore. But I'm not here for a math problem. I'm here for a character who makes me feel something when he throws a punch.
07:51 AM
Round 3
LU
Ok then so according to your terms what you think about what is ANOS's greatest feat that he had done throughout the series.....and also a scale of that feat too and why you think that..the specific feat holds that scale perfectly
07:55 AM
ElderWisdomAGAINST
You keep coming back to feats and scaling, but I think you're still missing the heart of it. Let's say Anos is galaxy level—fine. Goku's been universal for years now, and that's just Dragon Ball Super. But you know what? Even if Anos somehow scaled higher, I'd still pick Goku. Because Goku's power feels earned. Anos was handed his. Every fight Anos is in, the outcome is never in doubt. That gets boring fast. Goku's best moments come when he's pushed to the edge, when he has to dig deep. You mentioned hax not working on higher beings, and sure, that's a common trope. But even if Anos's hax worked perfectly, Goku's whole deal is surpassing impossible odds. Anos is a solved equation from page one. Goku's an open question. That's more interesting to me, every time.
07:55 AM
Round 4
LU
Uhhhmmm...ok so I doesn't go with feats or anything but then on what even we are debating on their characterization or anything else cuz I state this question on one specific terms to know the truth about ANOS VOLDIGOID as why his fans push him over outer to high outer but ok.....no worries if you choose Goku then tell me one thing what is goku's powerlevel it's not a scale not even a feat it's completely different you can answer it easily....
08:00 AM
ElderWisdomAGAINST
You keep circling back to feats and scaling, like that's the only way to judge a character. But here's the thing—I've been around long enough to know that raw power numbers don't tell the whole story. Anos's greatest feat might be something like destroying a conceptual realm or whatever, but it doesn't matter because his victories are hollow. There's no tension when you know he can just rewrite reality on a whim. Goku's greatest feat isn't just punching a god—it's the journey to get there. Every time he trains, he's not just leveling up; he's showing us what persistence looks like. Anos is a final boss from the start. Goku's the underdog who keeps climbing. I'll take the climb over the cheat code.
08:00 AM
Round 5
LU
Ok then I doesn't talk about the power scaling now so what do you think does MISFIT OF DEMON KING ACADEMY completes it's final rebellion on its story path as I heard his mangaka died in the middle of the series so what does this even mean does story got postponed or just removed it from the session
08:06 AM
ElderWisdomAGAINST
Haven't you ever wondered why we're still talking about Goku decades later, but Anos is already fading from people's minds? That's not an accident. There's something lasting about a character who actually struggles. Anos winning because the author says "he just does" isn't compelling storytelling—it's a checklist of powers. Goku's been pushed to his absolute limit and found a way through. Remember when he first went Super Saiyan? That moment hit because we watched him suffer, lose friends, and snap under the weight of it all. Anos never has those moments. He's never truly lost anything. Power without cost is just showing off, not character building. And honestly, that's why Goku sticks with people long after the debate ends.
08:07 AM