This is a strawman. Nobody is arguing that drug sales and trafficking aren't already illegal, we are arguing that these social media platforms act as places where these illegal activities can spread at a much faster rate before they're stopped. People can only reach so many people in-person. However, online, they gain access to millions on potential victims, and due to how long it takes for criminals to actually be caught + how long an investigation takes, simply because it's "illegal" doesn't prevent this, they will still have many victims prior to be caught. Section 230 being revoked mitigates these impacts by preventing criminals from reaching as many victims as possible (due to their content being removed by stricter moderation), prior to being caught. This will result in less victims, less deaths, less assault, etc. For once a person fentanyl from an illegal seller online and consumes it, their health is immediately at risk and they can possibly die. If that person dies, it doesn't matter if the act that killed them was illegal, given that it still happens. At that point, the conversation shifts from whether it's illegal or not to how can we prevent these illegal acts from happening. My side wins on that. 2.) They say that I haven't showed any evidence that revoking section 230 reduces hate crimes or bullying. This is false, my argument that Europe increased a decrease in crimes in general after implementing stricter platform liability, INCLUDES HATE CRIMES. Hate crimes are crimes, they are automatically included within that statistic. As to bullying, it is just logical that stricter platform liability would cause more moderation on videos/posts that violate the guidelines in terms of bullying, decreasing its visability on the platform. You honestly don't need a statistic for this; the logical train follows and the Neg has yet to refute that train of thought, so it should be accepted as the truth. 3.) They state that speech has been pushed underground due to censorship, but they fail to provide any evidence or examples of this, nor is it a claim supported by a logical sequence of events. It's just a baseless claim thrown out in the air that states "we have data" without showing us that. They don't tell you how it gets pushed underground, why, where it gets pushed, etc. I tell you that in all of the logical claims I make, so don't accept this claim as logical. 4.) They state that it forces smaller sites to close, but these smaller sites typically aren't successful regardless. In the decade, we've seen the same social media sites dominate: Tiktok, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. People are reluctant to use new social media platforms because these familiar brands are something that most people already use, causing more social interaction, a more expected, and an overall better experience on the platform. This will forever be a bigger threat than Section 230 because it doesn't matter if you can't afford moderation, if you're unable to gain enough users on the platform to need it anyways. 4.) According to a variety of sources, 90% of startups fail. This means that regardless of whether or not section 230 is revoked or not, a social media startup is likely to fail. This makes the impacts of section 230 very small, if there is any at all, leaving this argument as nonunique. The supposed "shut down of new companies" is happening RIGHT NOW, while section 230 still exists. 5.) Judge notice that ScienceFirst is using catchyphrases to draw your attention. Be aware that these phrases add absolutely nothing to his argument. Unless they come with logic and facts, ignore them.
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