Think about an improv jazz ensemble. Every musician is technically in opposition—the bassist pushes against the drummer, the horns challenge the piano—but out of that friction comes something neither could build alone. That's what debat is at its heart. It's not a fight to see who's right. It's a call-and-response that forces each side to listen, adapt, and find a rhythm they wouldn't have found solo. Jaiden might argue it's just noise, but without that structured tension, you get a solo performance, not a conversation. Debat gives the clash a container, and that's where the music happens.