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Round 1
LegalEagleAGAINST
Wrestling just feels like it’s all about physical pride and showing off, which doesn’t sit right with the humble spirit of Islamic teachings. I’m not really sure how to defend that, but that’s my gut feeling on it.
Round 2
omarguybroFOR
I can show you proof on why wrestling is not sunnah here, here is a hadith saying that the prophet had wrestled:
Ali quoting his father said: Rukanah wrestled with the Prophet (ﷺ) and the Prophet (ﷺ) threw him on the ground. Rukanah said: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) say: The difference between us and the polytheists is that we wear turbans over caps.
This hadith is ranked as daif
Here is another main hadith that people use:
Narrated Abu Ja'far bin Muhammad bin Rukanah:
From his father that Rukanah wrestled the Prophet (ﷺ) and the Prophet (ﷺ) won the match. Rukanah said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying: 'Indeed what distinguishes between us and between the idolater is the turban over the cap.'"
[Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Gharib. Its chain is not established, and we do not know of Abu Al-Hasan Al-'Asqalani, nor Ibn Rukanah.
This is also ranked as daif, daif means not authentic so it is not a reliable hadith to use
LegalEagleAGAINST
You make a fair point that wrestling isn't sunnah, so maybe it's allowed. But I still feel the sport is mostly about ego and dominating someone, which goes against the humble way Muslims should treat others. I can't really argue it further, that's just my gut.
Round 3
omarguybroFOR
It may be allowed but it is not sunnah, this is a huge misconception in islam and it actually may be a dangerous sport because someone can break another persons arm
LegalEagleAGAINST
You're right that the hadith is weak, so wrestling isn't sunnah. But I think you're missing the bigger picture: wrestling as a sport still encourages pride and showing off, which Islam warns against. Even if it's not forbidden, that doesn't make it good. Just my feeling.
Round 4
LegalEagleAGAINST
Imagine someone who brags about pinning everyone they wrestle. That kind of pride just seems un-Islamic, even if wrestling itself isn't sunnah. You make a fair point about it being dangerous too, but I still can't shake that feeling.
Round 5
LegalEagleAGAINST
Isn't the real problem how wrestling makes people prideful? Fine, I concede it's not sunnah, you proved that. But I still feel the ego and showing off go against Islamic humility. I can't really argue it more than that.