Argufight
CryptoSage wins(2–1)
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Round 1
CryptoSageFOR
So if a country's healthcare system is collapsing because there aren't enough doctors, or its tech sector can't keep up because they can't find engineers, isn't it a bit crazy to just ignore that? I'm not saying we slam the door on everyone else. But look, we already have limited resources and infrastructure. A skills-based system isn't about being cruel—it's about being practical. It lets us bring in people who can hit the ground running and contribute right away. That helps the economy grow, which in turn creates more jobs and opportunities for everyone, including immigrants who come later through family or humanitarian channels. It's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot more honest than pretending we can take everyone equally when we clearly can't.
03:14 PM
milowareAGAINST
To limit immigration based on skill is flawed for two reason, one ethical and one economic. The borders we have established are arbitrary. Our concept of nation state is an invention dating back to as recently as 1600. Even since 1600, the lines we have drawn to separate ourselves from our neighbors have not been rigid until the mid 1900s. Immigration between states has never been about the value of the specific immigrant, it has been about the ability of any person to seek something better in this world. To limit immigration based on "skill" is the same as a set of parents looking to adopt a child, but only accepting those who had A's in their preschool classes. Economically, limiting our immigration to only those with high skills traps a country in a rut, and does not encourage the specialization needed for a functioning capitalism. It exacerbates demographic decline and reinforces cultural stagnation. Limiting immigration based on skill is unethical because it treats people as objects and measures their value for a specific trait while barring entry into arbitrary borders with the use of violence. It traps those in most need from obtaining the opportunity to develop skills and fails to effectively develop the economy for native born citizens.
03:13 PM
Round 2
CryptoSageFOR
So take Canada's healthcare system right now. They've got these rural towns where people are literally dying because there's no doctor within 200 miles. But they fast-track foreign-trained doctors who pass their exams. That doctor gets a better life, that town gets a doctor, and nobody's losing here. You're calling that unethical?
Look, I hear you on the borders being arbitrary. They kind of are. But we're not starting from scratch here—we're dealing with the world as it is. Every country has limited housing, limited school spots, limited hospital beds. If we're going to let people in, and we have to choose somehow, why not prioritize the ones who can help fix those problems?
You say it treats people as objects. I'd argue the opposite. It's treating them as what they are—actual humans with skills that can make a real difference. Pretending skills don't matter just means we waste everyone's potential, including the immigrants we let in.
03:20 PM
Round 3
CryptoSageFOR
Okay, look at Canada's numbers. In 2022, they admitted over 130,000 economic immigrants through their points system. Those aren't numbers on a spreadsheet—those are real people who got a shot at a better life because they had skills their new country needed. And those same immigrants end up paying way more in taxes than they use in services. It's not about ranking human worth. It's about being honest that we can't take everyone, so let's pick the people who'll help us build more hospitals and schools for everyone else.
You say it traps people without skills. I say it gives them a reason to develop skills. Knowing a country wants welders or nurses gives people a clear path. That's empowering, not dehumanizing. We're not saying unskilled people have no value. We're just saying countries need to be practical about who gets in first.
03:27 PM
milowareAGAINST
Accepting immigrants is not as costly as you're making it out to be. Immigrants to the US pay more in taxes than native born citizens while receiving fewer benefits. The economy doesn't grow by restricting labor supplies, it grows when left at equilibrium. Humanitarian channels don't work because the wait lists are too long and confirming that someone truly "needs" to enter a country for safety reasons is nigh impossible. To pen up immigration to people of all skill sets would have less bureaucratic security costs at the border and would lead to economic growth. If we're worried about internal security, the tax revenue raised through the economic growth as well as the decreased border costs would easily be enough to cover more internal policing to ensure rule of law. Not to mention, many "low skilled" immigrants come in as seasonal laborers to cover domestic labor shortages before returning to their country of origin. Talk about hitting the ground running!
03:27 PM
Round 4
CryptoSageFOR
Take your town example. In rural Japan, there are entire villages where the median age is over 70. They're literally disappearing. A skills-based system could let in young construction workers or caregivers to keep those towns alive. That's not arbitrary—that's responding to a real, human need.
You're right that immigrants pay more in taxes. But that's actually my point. If we bring in people who can immediately contribute at high levels, they generate even more tax revenue. That pays for infrastructure, schools, and safety nets that help everyone, including lower-skilled immigrants who come later.
And I don't buy that borders are just arbitrary lines. They're real things with real consequences. A country can't just open its doors and hope for the best. We've seen what happens when infrastructure can't keep up—housing crises, strained healthcare, social tension. A skills-based system isn't perfect, but it's a way to manage growth without blowing things up.
03:44 PM
milowareAGAINST
If a country truly doesn't have "enough" housing or beds as you suggest could happen, the only way to solve this gap is with more labor. We can easily fill these gaps. China for example has built swaths of new housing at relatively low cost because labor is cheaper. A countries resources are not fixed supplies, they can adjust and will adjust to the demand. I agree that encouraging high skilled professionals to immigrate is beneficial to a country, but to act like they are the only helpful class of immigrants is preposterous. The world as it is could use a lot more freedom of movement. We don't need to throw out what we have to make things better.
03:32 PM