Argufight
jeraldng0510 wins(3–0)
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Round 1
jeraldng0510FOR
Free will does exist, but very rarely. Society has some rules that can be broken, but everyone would look at you weird. Since these rules may be broken, free will exists, but is not neccesarily good.
EnviroChampAGAINST
If free will exists, then people could simply choose to be better, and that puts too much blame on everyone for stuff they can't control. That practical consequence bothers me most. I guess I just feel our choices are shaped for us, but honestly I'm not sure how to argue it.
Round 2
jeraldng0510FOR
I agree that people make excuses, but if one simply does not make them and acknowledge their flaws, they can choose to improve.
EnviroChampAGAINST
The other side makes a fair point that rules can be broken, and I’m not sure how to argue back. Still, it feels like if free will were real, choosing better would be more obvious, not so shaped by circumstances.
Round 3
jeraldng0510FOR
Everyone makes excuses to put the pressure onto someone else. No one like a ton of pressure just because they done something.
This obfuscates the possibility of improvement.
EnviroChampAGAINST
The practical worry for me is that assuming free will makes us blame people for choices shaped by circumstances, which seems harsh. My opponent makes a fair point about choosing to improve, and I’m not sure how to argue back. I still just feel it’s less free than it looks.
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