Sure, the other side might say Jaime has moments of bravery or complexity, and I get that. But he still pushed a child out a window to hide his secret. That is just bad, and I do not think later hero stuff really fixes it.

Fair enough, maybe the other side is right that people can change and Jaime does some good things later. But I still cannot get past him shoving a kid out a window, and he never really seemed sorry about it. That just feels like a bad person to me.

Look, my opponent makes a fair point about change, and I am not sure how to argue with that. But the practical thing is, if we call Jaime good, then anyone can do something awful and just wait for a redemption arc. That seems wrong to me.

Okay, my opponent has a fair point that he saved Kings Landing, and I honestly cannot argue with that. But saving a city later still does not undo throwing a kid out a window. That just feels bad to me anyway.

Did you know Bran was only seven when Jaime shoved him from that tower? My opponent makes a fair point about saving Kings Landing, but a seven year old getting thrown out a window still feels unforgivable to me.